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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:27 am
Post subject: What is/was Placido's true fach?
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I can't remember the website now, but in about 2004, I was getting
into the meat of the issue surrounding the various fachs...there was
one in particular that clearly defined each singer accoprdiong to his
or her repertoire according to what he or she was best at.
I remember the entry for PD as "lyric/spinto/dramatic/baritone".
It is of course, difficult to tell with most singers, because there
are roles in their specialist fach that they wouldn't be able to sing
if they lived to be 200, but in other ranges, there would be roles
which would fit well with their voices and capabilities.
If, as it has been suggested by critics and punters alike, Placido was
pushed into a repertoire (and I know about the Maurizio in 1968, for
example), he was not ideally suited to, because of a perceived lack of
spinto/dramatic performers from the mid seventies, does this mean that
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:09 am
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On Apr 28, 7:40 am, "ljo" wrote:
> "Count of Warwick" wrote in messagenews:1177759635.369597.255910@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
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> >I can't remember the website now, but in about 2004, I was getting
> > into the meat of the issue surrounding the various fachs...there was
> > one in particular that clearly defined each singer accoprdiong to his
> > or her repertoire according to what he or she was best at.
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> > I remember the entry for PD as "lyric/spinto/dramatic/baritone".
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> > It is of course, difficult to tell with most singers, because there
> > are roles in their specialist fach that they wouldn't be able to sing
> > if they lived to be 200, but in other ranges, there would be roles
> > which would fit well with their voices and capabilities.
>
> > If, as it has been suggested by critics and punters alike, Placido was
> > pushed into a repertoire (and I know about the Maurizio in 1968, for
> > example), he was not ideally suited to, because of a perceived lack of
> > spinto/dramatic performers from the mid seventies, does this mean that
> > his true repertoire was in the lyric roles?
>
> Yes and no. No and yes. It's not mathematics, which is good, since I, >Stinkie Bollmann, am a stupid little fach-up.
Indeed, and in every way.
> Stinkie little-jerk-off bollmann, silly questions and outrageous >assholity my specialties.
They, and open-yapped crotte-chewing, are bollmann's specialties. |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:20 am
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>I> > If, as it has been suggested by critics and punters alike, Placido was
> > pushed into a repertoire (and I know about the Maurizio in 1968, for
> > example), he was not ideally suited to, because of a perceived lack of
> > spinto/dramatic performers from the mid seventies, does this mean that
> > his true repertoire was in the lyric roles?
>
> Yes and no. It's not mathematics.
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> ljo, silly questions
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Honestly, Bollman, you said it.
But for those who are able to read the WHOLE question, rather than
your...er..."good" self, it was prefaced by the word IF.
You are falling into the same trap who were squealing when I said
Domingo fans had sent filth to me by email, and thought I said ALL or
MOST Domingo fans...which, of course, as I have repeated until you are
blue in the face, Bollman...I WAS one of the Domingo fans!
You know, like the Rudyard Kipling poem. >> Stay informed about: What is/was Placido's true fach? |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:33 am
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On Apr 28, 8:20 am, Count of Warwick
wrote:
> >I> > If, as it has been suggested by critics and punters alike, Placido was
> > > pushed into a repertoire (and I know about the Maurizio in 1968, for
> > > example), he was not ideally suited to, because of a perceived lack of
> > > spinto/dramatic performers from the mid seventies, does this mean that
> > > his true repertoire was in the lyric roles?
>
> > Yes and no. It's not mathematics.
>
> > ljo, silly questions
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> =======
> Honestly, Bollman, you said it.
>
> But for those who are able to read the WHOLE question, rather than
> your...er..."good" self, it was prefaced by the word IF.
Please! let's not expect Stinkie Bollmann's "good" selves, any and
all of them, to parse such 'big words' as '_IF_'. It just won't/can't
happen.
> You are falling into the same trap who were squealing when I said
> Domingo fans had sent filth to me by email, and thought I said ALL or
> MOST Domingo fans...which, of course, as I have repeated until you are
> blue in the face, Bollman...I WAS one of the Domingo fans!
> You know, like the Rudyard Kipling poem.
'Big words' like 'IF' tend to excape the self-styled 'literalists'
such as Bollmann and KasaMerde. This is due to the fact that they
possess the combined IQ of Minus-25 - and are thoroughly proud of it.
To such mistakes of Nature, qualifiers, subjectivity, civil discourse,
-as well as soap- simply do not exist.
May they follow suit, existence-wise. At the very soonest.
Best,
L. Credit Where Due T. >> Stay informed about: What is/was Placido's true fach? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:44 am
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On Apr 28, 8:38 am, "ljo" wrote:
> "Count of Warwick" wrote in messagenews:1177762831.605830.260360@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
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> > >I> > If, as it has been suggested by critics and punters alike, Placido
> > >was
> >> > pushed into a repertoire (and I know about the Maurizio in 1968, for
> >> > example), he was not ideally suited to, because of a perceived lack of
> >> > spinto/dramatic performers from the mid seventies, does this mean that
> >> > his true repertoire was in the lyric roles?
>
> >> Yes and no. It's not mathematics.
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> >> ljo, silly questions
> > =======
> > Honestly, Bollman, you said it.
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> > But for those who are able to read the WHOLE question, rather than
> > your...er..."good" self, it was prefaced by the word IF.
>
> > You are falling into the same trap who were squealing when I said
> > Domingo fans had sent filth to me by email, and thought I said ALL or
> > MOST Domingo fans...which, of course, as I have repeated until you are
> > blue in the face, Bollman...I WAS one of the Domingo fans!
> > You know, like the Rudyard Kipling poem.
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> Okay. REVISED ANSWER:
Better one:
Fach you, Bollmann.
>blah blah rocket science.
Yes, may high-powered rockets fach you in every orifice and direction
known -and unknown- to man.
Even your alters may get fed up, and second the above. At the soonest. >> Stay informed about: What is/was Placido's true fach? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:46 am
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:51 am
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:54 am
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On Apr 28, 8:46 am, Count of Warwick
wrote, quoting the ridiculous little excrescense, Stink Bollmann:
> > Okay. REVISED ANSWER: Yes and no. It's not rocket science
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> =======
> No...you're not
Hmm....
What bollmann IS, however, is a steaming pile of a certain "#"
referred to of late....
Best,
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:40 am
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"Count of Warwick" wrote in message
>I can't remember the website now, but in about 2004, I was getting
> into the meat of the issue surrounding the various fachs...there was
> one in particular that clearly defined each singer accoprdiong to his
> or her repertoire according to what he or she was best at.
>
> I remember the entry for PD as "lyric/spinto/dramatic/baritone".
>
> It is of course, difficult to tell with most singers, because there
> are roles in their specialist fach that they wouldn't be able to sing
> if they lived to be 200, but in other ranges, there would be roles
> which would fit well with their voices and capabilities.
>
> If, as it has been suggested by critics and punters alike, Placido was
> pushed into a repertoire (and I know about the Maurizio in 1968, for
> example), he was not ideally suited to, because of a perceived lack of
> spinto/dramatic performers from the mid seventies, does this mean that
> his true repertoire was in the lyric roles?
>
Yes and no. It's not mathematics.
ljo, silly questions my specialty. >> Stay informed about: What is/was Placido's true fach? |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:38 pm
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"Count of Warwick" wrote in message
> >I> > If, as it has been suggested by critics and punters alike, Placido
> >was
>> > pushed into a repertoire (and I know about the Maurizio in 1968, for
>> > example), he was not ideally suited to, because of a perceived lack of
>> > spinto/dramatic performers from the mid seventies, does this mean that
>> > his true repertoire was in the lyric roles?
>>
>> Yes and no. It's not mathematics.
>>
>> ljo, silly questions
> =======
> Honestly, Bollman, you said it.
>
> But for those who are able to read the WHOLE question, rather than
> your...er..."good" self, it was prefaced by the word IF.
>
> You are falling into the same trap who were squealing when I said
> Domingo fans had sent filth to me by email, and thought I said ALL or
> MOST Domingo fans...which, of course, as I have repeated until you are
> blue in the face, Bollman...I WAS one of the Domingo fans!
> You know, like the Rudyard Kipling poem.
>
Okay. REVISED ANSWER: Yes and no. It's not rocket science. >> Stay informed about: What is/was Placido's true fach? |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:32 pm
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On Apr 28, 7:44 am, "L. Credit Where Due T."
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> On Apr 28, 8:38 am, "ljo" wrote:
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> > "Count of Warwick" wrote in messagenews:1177762831.605830.260360@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
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> > > >I> > If, as it has been suggested by critics and punters alike, Placido
> > > >was
> > >> > pushed into a repertoire (and I know about the Maurizio in 1968, for
> > >> > example), he was not ideally suited to, because of a perceived lack of
> > >> > spinto/dramatic performers from the mid seventies, does this mean that
> > >> > his true repertoire was in the lyric roles?
>
> > >> Yes and no. It's not mathematics.
>
> > >> ljo, silly questions
> > > =======
> > > Honestly, Bollman, you said it.
>
> > > But for those who are able to read the WHOLE question, rather than
> > > your...er..."good" self, it was prefaced by the word IF.
>
> > > You are falling into the same trap who were squealing when I said
> > > Domingo fans had sent filth to me by email, and thought I said ALL or
> > > MOST Domingo fans...which, of course, as I have repeated until you are
> > > blue in the face, Bollman...I WAS one of the Domingo fans!
> > > You know, like the Rudyard Kipling poem.
>
> > Okay. REVISED ANSWER:
>
> Better one:
>
> Fach you, Bollmann.
>
> >blah blah rocket science.
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> Yes, may high-powered rockets fach you in every orifice and direction
> known -and unknown- to man.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:44 am
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On 28 Apr, 12:27, Count of Warwick wrote:
> I can't remember the website now, but in about 2004, I was getting
> into the meat of the issue surrounding the various fachs...there was
> one in particular that clearly defined each singer accoprdiong to his
> or her repertoire according to what he or she was best at.
>
> I remember the entry for PD as "lyric/spinto/dramatic/baritone".
>
> It is of course, difficult to tell with most singers, because there
> are roles in their specialist fach that they wouldn't be able to sing
> if they lived to be 200, but in other ranges, there would be roles
> which would fit well with their voices and capabilities.
>
> If, as it has been suggested by critics and punters alike, Placido was
> pushed into a repertoire (and I know about the Maurizio in 1968, for
> example), he was not ideally suited to, because of a perceived lack of
> spinto/dramatic performers from the mid seventies, does this mean that
> his true repertoire was in the lyric roles?
Hi, I have forgotten the salutation for a count, so please forgive me.
Domingo has been around for so long, his voice has changed with age.
I doubt he could ever be described as a lyric, all the same this has
been the fate of many singers in the past. I don't think he was
pushed into a repertoire that he was not ideally suited for. In my
humble opinion, I think he decided that he would play the role as an
emissary for the world of opera, I think he realises that he might not
be the greatest singer in any role but he might be the most versatile,
and he has has the pulling power to keep certain opera's from
disappearing. One immediately thinks of Otello.
Best regards
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:25 am
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On May 3, 6:44 am, jrw wrote:
> On 28 Apr, 12:27, Count of Warwick wrote:
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> > I can't remember the website now, but in about 2004, I was getting
> > into the meat of the issue surrounding the various fachs...there was
> > one in particular that clearly defined each singer accoprdiong to his
> > or her repertoire according to what he or she was best at.
>
> > I remember the entry for PD as "lyric/spinto/dramatic/baritone".
>
> > It is of course, difficult to tell with most singers, because there
> > are roles in their specialist fach that they wouldn't be able to sing
> > if they lived to be 200, but in other ranges, there would be roles
> > which would fit well with their voices and capabilities.
>
> > If, as it has been suggested by critics and punters alike, Placido was
> > pushed into a repertoire (and I know about the Maurizio in 1968, for
> > example), he was not ideally suited to, because of a perceived lack of
> > spinto/dramatic performers from the mid seventies, does this mean that
> > his true repertoire was in the lyric roles?
>
> Hi, I have forgotten the salutation for a count, so please forgive me.
>
> Domingo has been around for so long, his voice has changed with age.
> I doubt he could ever be described as a lyric, all the same this has
> been the fate of many singers in the past. I don't think he was
> pushed into a repertoire that he was not ideally suited for. In my
> humble opinion, I think he decided that he would play the role as an
> emissary for the world of opera, I think he realises that he might not
> be the greatest singer in any role but he might be the most versatile,
> and he has has the pulling power to keep certain opera's from
> disappearing. One immediately thinks of Otello.
>
> Best regards
>
> John- Hide quoted text -
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Excelling at many roles is no less a distinction IMO than being "the
greatest" in one or several of them.
Best,
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:25 am
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On May 3, 1:25 pm, "L. Credit Where Due T."
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> On May 3, 6:44 am, jrw wrote:
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> > On 28 Apr, 12:27, Count of Warwick wrote:
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> > > I can't remember the website now, but in about 2004, I was getting
> > > into the meat of the issue surrounding the various fachs...there was
> > > one in particular that clearly defined each singer accoprdiong to his
> > > or her repertoire according to what he or she was best at.
>
> > > I remember the entry for PD as "lyric/spinto/dramatic/baritone".
>
> > > It is of course, difficult to tell with most singers, because there
> > > are roles in their specialist fach that they wouldn't be able to sing
> > > if they lived to be 200, but in other ranges, there would be roles
> > > which would fit well with their voices and capabilities.
>
> > > If, as it has been suggested by critics and punters alike, Placido was
> > > pushed into a repertoire (and I know about the Maurizio in 1968, for
> > > example), he was not ideally suited to, because of a perceived lack of
> > > spinto/dramatic performers from the mid seventies, does this mean that
> > > his true repertoire was in the lyric roles?
>
> > Hi, I have forgotten the salutation for a count, so please forgive me.
>
> > Domingo has been around for so long, his voice has changed with age.
> > I doubt he could ever be described as a lyric, all the same this has
> > been the fate of many singers in the past. I don't think he was
> > pushed into a repertoire that he was not ideally suited for. In my
> > humble opinion, I think he decided that he would play the role as an
> > emissary for the world of opera, I think he realises that he might not
> > be the greatest singer in any role but he might be the most versatile,
> > and he has has the pulling power to keep certain opera's from
> > disappearing. One immediately thinks of Otello.
>
> > Best regards
>
> > John- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> Excelling at many roles is no less a distinction IMO than being "the
> greatest" in one or several of them.
>
> Best,
> LT
Quite right, it is a disappointment that so many great singers in the
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:34 am
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On Apr 28, 7:27?am, Count of Warwick
wrote:
> I can't remember the website now, but in about 2004, I was getting
> into the meat of the issue surrounding the various fachs...there was
> one in particular that clearly defined each singer accoprdiong to his
> or her repertoire according to what he or she was best at.
>
> I remember the entry for PD as "lyric/spinto/dramatic/baritone".
>
> It is of course, difficult to tell with most singers, because there
> are roles in their specialist fach that they wouldn't be able to sing
> if they lived to be 200, but in other ranges, there would be roles
> which would fit well with their voices and capabilities.
>
> If, as it has been suggested by critics and punters alike, Placido was
> pushed into a repertoire (and I know about the Maurizio in 1968, for
> example), he was not ideally suited to, because of a perceived lack of
> spinto/dramatic performers from the mid seventies, does this mean that
> his true repertoire was in the lyric roles?
Domingo's true fach must have been as a banker or an accountant.
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