Parterrebox Youtube account suspended?

On Jul 3, 4:01 pm, Jim <jmel....DeleteThis@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> On Jul 3, 3:57 pm, "DylanBD" <dbryandol....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > None of the videos posted by parterrebox are available all of a sudden, and
> > it says the account is suspended. Anybody know what's up?
>
> Probably because the people who posted the videos did not have any
> rights to them, and those who did asked for them to be removed.

Did your mother and father abuse you....something must have caused you
to become a piece of nasty filth.....ch
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On Jul 3, 4:05 pm, The One and Only Original Opera Clown wrote:
>
> Did your mother and father abuse you....something must have caused you
> to become a piece of nasty filth.....ch


I'm sorry if the realities of copyright law and intellectual property
ownership don't suit you, but that's most likely the answer to the
OP's query. Your childish retorts only reflect badly on you.
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On Jul 3, 3:57 pm, "DylanBD" <dbryandol....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> None of the videos posted by parterrebox are available all of a sudden, and
> it says the account is suspended. Anybody know what's up?
>
> Also, guys, put some Beverly Sills on Youtube! That's what I went on looking
> for!

YouTube is very nervous about being sued, and all one has to do is
write them and claim that you have the copyright to a certain YouTube
or miltiple YouTubes. They will close your account, even though the
complainee does not have the right. They don't bother to check,
because they are too paranoid. Many YouTubes of many posters have been
taken down because of the complaints of one single "complainer." This
is a place in Europe called something like Onegin SL. They have the
rights to nothing, but by complaining, and lying in saying that they
do, all of the Parterre YouTubes, as well as many others, have been
suspended.

Ed
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On Jul 3, 6:48 pm, La Donna Mobile <enidlar....DeleteThis@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Jim wrote:
> > On Jul 3, 3:57 pm, "DylanBD" <dbryandol....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> None of the videos posted by parterrebox are available all of a sudden, and
> >> it says the account is suspended. Anybody know what's up?
>
> > Probably because the people who posted the videos did not have any
> > rights to them, and those who did asked for them to be removed.
>
> Except it's almost certainly not that straight-forward.
>
> There is a disturbed individual going by various names such as Oneguin65
> and RaiTrade who is routinely claiming copyright to an increasing number
> of opera clips on Youtube, leading first to the videos being removed and
> after three breaches the user accounts being suspended. He follows his
> unfounded copyright claims with a string of vulgar abuse into the inbox
> of the person who had videos up. The actual copyright owners are not
> doing it because a) they havebetter things to do with the time and b) on
> balance they can recognise the marginal benefits of free advertising of
> their product.
>
> This sick person Oneguin65/RAITrade spitefully wants to remove the
> enjoyment of many many people worldwide; there is some debate as to
> whether he is motivated by obsessive admiration of one particular tenor
> or whether he just wants himself to be the only supplier of opera videos
> to YouTube

You are exactly correct, LDM. YouTube is too damn paranoid.

Best
Ed
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On Jul 3, 7:53 pm, "DylanBD" <dbryandol....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> It's obviously to the benefit of people producing and selling opera for the
> art form to have a presence in a medium that reaches a broad young audience
> that is otherwise unlikely to encounter this music.

You could certainly debate how likely they are to encounter this music
on YouTube, since they're much more likely to be looking for Britney
Spears than Beverly Sills. And there is a "fair use" provision, but
some people just harvest copyrighted material repeatedly...not to
mention the greyer area of live performance stuff, which is by
definition illegal.

> The only people whose interests would be served by such deletions would be
> people running rival websites. What do you want to bet that this whole thing is the outgrowth of one of the idiotic feuds right here on rmo?

What? You mean thieves falling out? I'm shocked!
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On Jul 3, 8:19 pm, Jim <jmel... RemoveThis @peoplepc.com> wrote:
> On Jul 3, 7:53 pm, "DylanBD" <dbryandol... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It's obviously to the benefit of people producing and selling opera for the
> > art form to have a presence in a medium that reaches a broad young audience
> > that is otherwise unlikely to encounter this music.
>
> You could certainly debate how likely they are to encounter this music
> on YouTube, since they're much more likely to be looking for Britney
> Spears than Beverly Sills. And there is a "fair use" provision, but
> some people just harvest copyrighted material repeatedly...not to
> mention the greyer area of live performance stuff, which is by
> definition illegal.
>
> > The only people whose interests would be served by such deletions would be
> > people running rival websites. What do you want to bet that this whole thing is the outgrowth of one of the idiotic feuds right here on rmo?
>
> What? You mean thieves falling out? I'm shocked!

It's called La Vendetta!! And the suggestion that some on this list
would stoop to that strikes me as being apt.

Ed
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Jim wrote:
> On Jul 3, 3:57 pm, "DylanBD" <dbryandol....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> None of the videos posted by parterrebox are available all of a sudden, and
>> it says the account is suspended. Anybody know what's up?
>
> Probably because the people who posted the videos did not have any
> rights to them, and those who did asked for them to be removed.
>

Except it's almost certainly not that straight-forward.

There is a disturbed individual going by various names such as Oneguin65
and RaiTrade who is routinely claiming copyright to an increasing number
of opera clips on Youtube, leading first to the videos being removed and
after three breaches the user accounts being suspended. He follows his
unfounded copyright claims with a string of vulgar abuse into the inbox
of the person who had videos up. The actual copyright owners are not
doing it because a) they havebetter things to do with the time and b) on
balance they can recognise the marginal benefits of free advertising of
their product.

This sick person Oneguin65/RAITrade spitefully wants to remove the
enjoyment of many many people worldwide; there is some debate as to
whether he is motivated by obsessive admiration of one particular tenor
or whether he just wants himself to be the only supplier of opera videos
to YouTube
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"Jim" <jmelsna.RemoveThis@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> On Jul 3, 3:57 pm, "DylanBD" <dbryandol....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> None of the videos posted by parterrebox are available all of a sudden,
>> and
>> it says the account is suspended. Anybody know what's up?
>
> Probably because the people who posted the videos did not have any
> rights to them, and those who did asked for them to be removed.

That is extremely unlikely.

It's obviously to the benefit of people producing and selling opera for the
art form to have a presence in a medium that reaches a broad young audience
that is otherwise unlikely to encounter this music.

The only people whose interests would be served by such deletions would be
people running rival websites.

What do you want to bet that this whole thing is the outgrowth of one of the
idiotic feuds right here on rmo? And the result is - on the day after
Beverly Sills' death, there is very little archival material available for
use in online memorials.
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"Jim" <jmelsna DeleteThis @peoplepc.com> wrote:
> You could certainly debate how likely they are to encounter this music
> on YouTube, since they're much more likely to be looking for Britney
> Spears than Beverly Sills.

YouTube facilitates browsing more than it does directed searching, and the
list of "similar" videos often turns up surprising things.
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DylanBD wrote:
> "Jim" <jmelsna.RemoveThis@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 3, 3:57 pm, "DylanBD" <dbryandol....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> None of the videos posted by parterrebox are available all of a sudden,
>>> and
>>> it says the account is suspended. Anybody know what's up?
>> Probably because the people who posted the videos did not have any
>> rights to them, and those who did asked for them to be removed.
>
> That is extremely unlikely.
>
> It's obviously to the benefit of people producing and selling opera for the
> art form to have a presence in a medium that reaches a broad young audience
> that is otherwise unlikely to encounter this music.
>
> The only people whose interests would be served by such deletions would be
> people running rival websites.
>
> What do you want to bet that this whole thing is the outgrowth of one of the
> idiotic feuds right here on rmo? And the result is - on the day after
> Beverly Sills' death, there is very little archival material available for
> use in online memorials.
>
>

Absolutely nothing. Most of my friends who have had their accounts
suspended have nothing to do with rmo.
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premiereopera DeleteThis @aol.com wrote:
> On Jul 3, 6:48 pm, La Donna Mobile <enidlar... DeleteThis @btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Jim wrote:
>>> On Jul 3, 3:57 pm, "DylanBD" <dbryandol... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> None of the videos posted by parterrebox are available all of a sudden, and
>>>> it says the account is suspended. Anybody know what's up?
>>> Probably because the people who posted the videos did not have any
>>> rights to them, and those who did asked for them to be removed.
>> Except it's almost certainly not that straight-forward.
>>
>> There is a disturbed individual going by various names such as Oneguin65
>> and RaiTrade who is routinely claiming copyright to an increasing number
>> of opera clips on Youtube, leading first to the videos being removed and
>> after three breaches the user accounts being suspended. He follows his
>> unfounded copyright claims with a string of vulgar abuse into the inbox
>> of the person who had videos up. The actual copyright owners are not
>> doing it because a) they havebetter things to do with the time and b) on
>> balance they can recognise the marginal benefits of free advertising of
>> their product.
>>
>> This sick person Oneguin65/RAITrade spitefully wants to remove the
>> enjoyment of many many people worldwide; there is some debate as to
>> whether he is motivated by obsessive admiration of one particular tenor
>> or whether he just wants himself to be the only supplier of opera videos
>> to YouTube
>
> You are exactly correct, LDM. YouTube is too damn paranoid.
>
> Best
> Ed
>
The fact that unbeknownst to each other we posted pretty much the same
thing at just about the same time says quite a lot, I think
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>> > The only people whose interests would be served by such deletions would
>> > be
>> > people running rival websites. What do you want to bet that this whole
>> > thing is the outgrowth of one of the idiotic feuds right here on rmo?
>>
>> What? You mean thieves falling out? I'm shocked!
>
> It's called La Vendetta!! And the suggestion that some on this list
> would stoop to that strikes me as being apt.
>
> Ed
>

Who are your suspects? Blanket anonymous sliming strikes me as very
déclassé.
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