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Elektra

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:39 pm
Post subject: Mario Ortica and other such tenors (ORRORE)

I specifically mentioned Ortica because his Met perf.were
absolutely horrendous..At the end of the Celeste Aida..we heard one
clap(his mommy??)
He RUINED the Tebaldi Chenier..cracking on the top notes in the
usually glorious last duet..I never booed.....but came close..by all
of us yelling "Bravo Gigli..Bravo Pertile...etc.)
The big difference between the tenors (or other voice categories)
from my era and today's eras is that we had GREATNESS and
HORROR....Totall yextreme:

We did have Tucker,Corelli,DelMonaco,Bergonzi,Gedda,valletti..etc.

BUT we had Nuotio,Nikoloff,Parly,Zambruno,Piso,Feiersinger,Gari,Baum,
and other teniors who made our lives miserable..since they
appeared in operas with GOOD PEOPLE...so we suffered very often.

Today..it is much better in general..despite the lack of a Tucker or a
Corellli..but it is wonderful not to have to suffer the way we
did....CH

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:44 pm
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:07 pm
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On 8 Jul, 19:44, wkasimer <wkasi... RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> *

I specifically mentioned Ortica because his Met perf.were
absolutely horrendous..At the end of the Celeste Aida..we heard one
clap(his mommy??)
He RUINED the Tebaldi Chenier..cracking on the top notes in the
usually glorious last duet..I never booed.....but came close..by all
of us yelling "Bravo Gigli..Bravo Pertile...etc.)
The big difference between the tenors (or other voice categories)
from my era and today's eras is that we had GREATNESS and
HORROR....Totall yextreme:

We did have Tucker,Corelli,DelMonaco,Bergonzi,Gedda,valletti..etc.


BUT we had
Nuotio,Nikoloff,Parly,Zambruno,Piso,Feiersinger,Gari,Baum,
and other teniors who made our lives miserable..since they
appeared in operas with GOOD PEOPLE...so we suffered very often.


Today..it is much better in general..despite the lack of a Tucker or
a
Corellli..but it is wonderful not to have to suffer the way we
did....CH


Sorry Billie cannot appreciate opera as most of us do...ch
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Ortrud Jones

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:14 pm
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On Jul 8, 8:07 pm, Elektra <CharlesHandel....DeleteThis@cs.com> wrote:
> On 8 Jul, 19:44, wkasimer <wkasi....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > *
>
> I specifically mentioned Ortica because his Met perf.were
> absolutely horrendous..At the end of the Celeste Aida..we heard one
> clap(his mommy??)
> He RUINED the Tebaldi Chenier..cracking on the top notes in the
> usually glorious last duet..I never booed.....but came close..by all
> of us yelling "Bravo Gigli..Bravo Pertile...etc.)
> The big difference between the tenors (or other voice categories)
> from my era and today's eras is that we had GREATNESS and
> HORROR....Totall yextreme:
>
> We did have Tucker,Corelli,DelMonaco,Bergonzi,Gedda,valletti..etc.
>
> BUT we had
> Nuotio,Nikoloff,Parly,Zambruno,Piso,Feiersinger,Gari,Baum,
> and other teniors who made our lives miserable..since they
> appeared in operas with GOOD PEOPLE...so we suffered very often.
>
> Today..it is much better in general..despite the lack of a Tucker or
> a
> Corellli..but it is wonderful not to have to suffer the way we
> did....CH
>
> Sorry Billie cannot appreciate opera as most of us do...ch
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:06 pm
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I think it's true, going back even to the 70s (1970s) when I started, that
there was a lot more variability. There were performances that would NEVER
got on stage now, and singers who wouldn't, and there were, I think, maybe
more of the spectaclar performances.

I think that's because now the MET is turning out a 'product' - it doesn't
have to be inspired but it has to be 'consistent'. You see that in other art
forms as well - it's not limited to opera - at some point you really go into
a mass-production mode, and that takes away the highs and the lows. The way
the MET has done this is by relying more and more on production 'values'
rather than individual singers to carry the evenings.


"Elektra" <CharlesHandelman.RemoveThis@cs.com> wrote in message
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> I specifically mentioned Ortica because his Met perf.were
> absolutely horrendous..At the end of the Celeste Aida..we heard one
> clap(his mommy??)
> He RUINED the Tebaldi Chenier..cracking on the top notes in the
> usually glorious last duet..I never booed.....but came close..by all
> of us yelling "Bravo Gigli..Bravo Pertile...etc.)
> The big difference between the tenors (or other voice categories)
> from my era and today's eras is that we had GREATNESS and
> HORROR....Totall yextreme:
>
> We did have Tucker,Corelli,DelMonaco,Bergonzi,Gedda,valletti..etc.
>
> BUT we had Nuotio,Nikoloff,Parly,Zambruno,Piso,Feiersinger,Gari,Baum,
> and other teniors who made our lives miserable..since they
> appeared in operas with GOOD PEOPLE...so we suffered very often.
>
> Today..it is much better in general..despite the lack of a Tucker or a
> Corellli..but it is wonderful not to have to suffer the way we
> did....CH
>
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