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arben73

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:09 am
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It sounds to me like he loses control on the Ab after the C
Diminuendo? Also, magnificent as the C is, I get the impression that
producing it was costing him dear. Unlike Bjorling, who always sang on
his interest without ever dipping into his capital. In comparison to
Bjorling Di Stefano's technique was not very good. But a marvellous
singer and in the long run the legacy is unique and the cost cheap at
half the price.

Ben

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:08 am
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On Jul 15, 9:59 am, "Stephen Jay-Taylor" <sjaytay....TakeThisOut@btinternet.com>
wrote:
> " in the long run the legacy is unique and the cost cheap at half the
> price."
>
> In context, meaningless. All costs ARE cheap, at half the price.
>
> I believe the barrow-boys' cry was "Cheap at twice the price"
>
> SJT, invariably expensive.



The thought police have nothing on you sir.

Ben

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:36 am
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>
> I always loved the basic sound of the voice but it is dismaying to listen to
> the EMI sets he did with Callas and to hear the voice rapidly getting
> worse - its only seven years between the Tosca he did for EMI and the one he
> recorded for Decca with Karajan but the top in the later set is ruinous
> Richard.

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The Decca set, though not an absolute classic, is still highly rated
among its versions of Tosca. I've heard extended snippets, and
although the voice is not as fresh, he is still in good form.

BTW: it was nine years between the EMI (1953) and Decca sets (1962).

C of W
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:26 am
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<arben73.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> It sounds to me like he loses control on the Ab after the C
> Diminuendo? Also, magnificent as the C is, I get the impression that
> producing it was costing him dear. Unlike Bjorling, who always sang on
> his interest without ever dipping into his capital. In comparison to
> Bjorling Di Stefano's technique was not very good. But a marvellous
> singer and in the long run the legacy is unique and the cost cheap at
> half the price.
>
> Ben
>

I always loved the basic sound of the voice but it is dismaying to listen to
the EMI sets he did with Callas and to hear the voice rapidly getting
worse - its only seven years between the Tosca he did for EMI and the one he
recorded for Decca with Karajan but the top in the later set is ruinous
Richard.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:45 am
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"Count of Warwick" <raff_martino_7.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >
>> I always loved the basic sound of the voice but it is dismaying to listen
>> to
>> the EMI sets he did with Callas and to hear the voice rapidly getting
>> worse - its only seven years between the Tosca he did for EMI and the one
>> he
>> recorded for Decca with Karajan but the top in the later set is ruinous
>> Richard.
>
> =========
> The Decca set, though not an absolute classic, is still highly rated
> among its versions of Tosca. I've heard extended snippets, and
> although the voice is not as fresh, he is still in good form.
>
> BTW: it was nine years between the EMI (1953) and Decca sets (1962).
>
> C of W
>

Yes I like the Decca set as well- the sound is wonderful (the Sofiensaal
really was a superb recording venue!!!) and Culshaw was on his best
behavior. Price is in superb voice except for the bottom which is absent and
sings with an emotional directness in those early years which is very
moving, the basic likable quality of di Stefanos voice is still there (it
always was) but the top is ruinously flat, open and blatty. Its hard for me
warm up to a performance where every climax is a moment of horror but di
Stefano almost convinces me to stick wiith him (there are some performers
you just root for) and Taddei has always been a favorite of mine (but Gobbi
remains for me "the" Scarpia). Karajans playing is gorgeous, maybe sometimes
TOO gorgeous - I still go back to the de Sabata Callas-di Stefano-Gobbi -
the singers are all in their short primes and you can't get much "primer"
than these three in 1953. Richard
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:27 am
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It's a long way from May to February.

"Count of Warwick" <raff_martino_7 RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >
>> I always loved the basic sound of the voice but it is dismaying to listen
>> to
>> the EMI sets he did with Callas and to hear the voice rapidly getting
>> worse - its only seven years between the Tosca he did for EMI and the one
>> he
>> recorded for Decca with Karajan but the top in the later set is ruinous
>> Richard.
>
> =========
> The Decca set, though not an absolute classic, is still highly rated
> among its versions of Tosca. I've heard extended snippets, and
> although the voice is not as fresh, he is still in good form.
>
> BTW: it was nine years between the EMI (1953) and Decca sets (1962).
>
> C of W
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:59 am
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" in the long run the legacy is unique and the cost cheap at half the
price."

In context, meaningless. All costs ARE cheap, at half the price.

I believe the barrow-boys' cry was "Cheap at twice the price"

SJT, invariably expensive.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:08 pm
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"The thought police have nothing on you sir."

So I should hope, though I'm equally certain it wouldn't be for the lack of
trying......

SJT, writing from Room 101.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:48 pm
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i need help, there is a song and i don't know the name of it, can anybody tell me?they have it on a ufc website 82.ufc.com
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