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samurai9

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:46 pm
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Virtually all tenors end La donna e mobile with an unwritten scale or
coda perhaps made famous by Caruso in his recording of the aria. Can
the actual written notes of this coda be found anywhere on line?

Thanks,

Samurai

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:45 pm
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On Jul 3, 4:46 pm, samur....TakeThisOut@comcast.net wrote:
> Virtually all tenors end La donna e mobile with an unwritten scale or
> coda perhaps made famous by Caruso in his recording of the aria. Can
> the actual written notes of this coda be found anywhere on line?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Samurai

I don't know if it's online, but Jan Peerce, in the "Act 4" under
Toscanini, also with Milanov and Warren, sings sthe same scale, but
instead of singing the (unwritten) high B natural, Toscanini makes him
sing the written note, and octave lower.

Ed

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alanwatkinsuk

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:09 pm
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On Jul 3, 11:45?pm, "premiereop...@aol.com" <edop... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 3, 4:46 pm, samur... RemoveThis @comcast.net wrote:
>
> > Virtually all tenors end La donna e mobile with an unwritten scale or
> > coda perhaps made famous by Caruso in his recording of the aria. Can
> > the actual written notes of this coda be found anywhere on line?
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Samurai
>
> I don't know if it's online, but Jan Peerce, in the "Act 4" under
> Toscanini, also with Milanov and Warren, sings sthe same scale, but
> instead of singing the (unwritten) high B natural, Toscanini makes him
> sing the written note, and octave lower.
>
> Ed

The Ricordi *urtext* edition should solve the problem. And under $30
too.

If you wish to stick to the score that is.

Kind regards,
Alan M.Watkins
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samurai9

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:17 am
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I have the piano-vocal score with the original ending. I am looking
for a written version of the flamboyant Caruso coda. I have never
heard anyone else sing that phrase with more panache and elan
(whatever that means).

Samurai
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Kari Vehmanen

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:59 pm
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samurai9 DeleteThis @comcast.net wrote in news:1183555043.764057.285480
@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

> I have the piano-vocal score with the original ending. I am looking
> for a written version of the flamboyant Caruso coda. I have never
> heard anyone else sing that phrase with more panache and elan
> (whatever that means).
>
> Samurai
>
>

Try to get Luigi Ricci's VARIAZIONI-CADENZE TRADIZIONI PER CANTO. Volume 2
is for tenors etc. Publisher is Ricordi.

KV
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Mike Richter

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:14 am
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samurai9.TakeThisOut@comcast.net wrote:
> I have the piano-vocal score with the original ending. I am looking
> for a written version of the flamboyant Caruso coda. I have never
> heard anyone else sing that phrase with more panache and elan
> (whatever that means).

Panache and elan are matters of taste; objectively, Joseph Schmidt sang
it with more precision.

Mike
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:06 am
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In article <1183555043.764057.285480.TakeThisOut@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
<samurai9.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:

> I have the piano-vocal score with the original ending. I am looking
> for a written version of the flamboyant Caruso coda. I have never
> heard anyone else sing that phrase with more panache and elan
> (whatever that means).

The standard coda is printed in footnote in the Schirmer anthology
edited by Larsen.

mdl
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L. Credit Where Due T.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:08 pm
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On Jul 4, 9:17 am, samur....TakeThisOut@comcast.net wrote:
> I have the piano-vocal score with the original ending. I am looking
> for a written version of the flamboyant Caruso coda. I have never
> heard anyone else sing that phrase with more panache and elan
> (whatever that means).

It's seems to signify a combo of high-level style, excellence, and
genuine enjoyment from the performer - both at his own accomplishment
and the audience's appreciation thereof.

I, too, find Caruso's coda the most impressive, with the exceptions of
Peerce (Cellini's classic album) and the also-great Josef Schmidt.
Had he been Jewish, it can only be speculated as to what a Cantor
Caruso might've been; his very good friend, the "Ergster Chazzunnah of
Them All", Josef Rosenblatt, seemed to think so, while Caruso had
similar opinions on the Cantor's operatic *potentials.

> Samurai

Best,
LT
*Wouldn't have happened, due to the Cantor's strict Orthodoxy
precluding the demands of an opera career, often entailing Sabbath
performances, etc.
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